Comments on: Fewer English, better for England? http://www.completetosh.com/weblog/2007/12/05/fewer-english-better-for-england/ by Neil McIntosh Wed, 04 May 2011 13:45:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Neil McIntosh http://www.completetosh.com/weblog/2007/12/05/fewer-english-better-for-england/comment-page-1/#comment-7357 Neil McIntosh Thu, 06 Dec 2007 11:59:59 +0000 http://www.completetosh.com/weblog/2007/12/05/fewer-english-better-for-england/#comment-7357 <p>Thanks for the link Armin - it's a typically interesting and well thought-through Economist piece, and it makes some interesting points on skills training among youngsters. But it dismisses too easily the calls for quotas as mere protectionism, while ignoring the odd truth: that England's youth teams do pretty well, but that those promising youngsters too often fail to develop into top pros. </p> <p>Contrary to what the Economist claims, the mediocre wouldn't be coddled if they were thumped every week in the Champions' League, because the market for competitions (if not players) would still be open. Faced with humiliation each year, Premiership clubs would invest more in modern coaching and youth developement to make sure they could compete at that top level. A by-product of this would a better English football team.</p> Thanks for the link Armin – it’s a typically interesting and well thought-through Economist piece, and it makes some interesting points on skills training among youngsters. But it dismisses too easily the calls for quotas as mere protectionism, while ignoring the odd truth: that England’s youth teams do pretty well, but that those promising youngsters too often fail to develop into top pros.

Contrary to what the Economist claims, the mediocre wouldn’t be coddled if they were thumped every week in the Champions’ League, because the market for competitions (if not players) would still be open. Faced with humiliation each year, Premiership clubs would invest more in modern coaching and youth developement to make sure they could compete at that top level. A by-product of this would a better English football team.

]]> By: Armin http://www.completetosh.com/weblog/2007/12/05/fewer-english-better-for-england/comment-page-1/#comment-7260 Armin Wed, 05 Dec 2007 21:56:22 +0000 http://www.completetosh.com/weblog/2007/12/05/fewer-english-better-for-england/#comment-7260 Don't know if you've seen this, but I find this analysis by The Economist quite interesting: <a href="http://www.economist.com/world/britain/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10186049" rel="nofollow">Skills gap</a>. Which shows that the problem is much deeper. And much more difficult to fix than with a probably pointless and at least partly illegal quota. Don’t know if you’ve seen this, but I find this analysis by The Economist quite interesting: Skills gap. Which shows that the problem is much deeper. And much more difficult to fix than with a probably pointless and at least partly illegal quota.

]]> By: Neil McIntosh http://www.completetosh.com/weblog/2007/12/05/fewer-english-better-for-england/comment-page-1/#comment-7182 Neil McIntosh Wed, 05 Dec 2007 15:50:15 +0000 http://www.completetosh.com/weblog/2007/12/05/fewer-english-better-for-england/#comment-7182 John - the studies I've seen over the last few weeks - one in the Telegraph I can't find, plus this from a German (I think) website... http://soccer-europe.com/Data/Players/ForeignPlayers.html suggest the Premiership comfortably has more foreign players in its ranks. John – the studies I’ve seen over the last few weeks – one in the Telegraph I can’t find, plus this from a German (I think) website…

http://soccer-europe.com/Data/.....ayers.html

suggest the Premiership comfortably has more foreign players in its ranks.

]]> By: JohnofScribbleSheet http://www.completetosh.com/weblog/2007/12/05/fewer-english-better-for-england/comment-page-1/#comment-7158 JohnofScribbleSheet Wed, 05 Dec 2007 14:42:09 +0000 http://www.completetosh.com/weblog/2007/12/05/fewer-english-better-for-england/#comment-7158 Apparently, by percentage Spain and Italy have more foreigners in their leagues. Thus we have legitimate qualms. Its not to do with foreigners. Why cant we ever blame ourselves. Apparently, by percentage Spain and Italy have more foreigners in their leagues.

Thus we have legitimate qualms. Its not to do with foreigners. Why cant we ever blame ourselves.

]]> By: manutdfc13 http://www.completetosh.com/weblog/2007/12/05/fewer-english-better-for-england/comment-page-1/#comment-7139 manutdfc13 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 12:07:34 +0000 http://www.completetosh.com/weblog/2007/12/05/fewer-english-better-for-england/#comment-7139 Hi, I personally dont think that the problem is that we have too many foreign players. The english players are training with the best players in the world. But i do think that there is a problem when no english players are playing in the Arsenal team. There isnt an english player in Arsenals 1st eleven and i do see a problem in that. Hi,
I personally dont think that the problem is that we have too many foreign players. The english players are training with the best players in the world.
But i do think that there is a problem when no english players are playing in the Arsenal team. There isnt an english player in Arsenals 1st eleven and i do see a problem in that.

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