Comments on: iPhone: but what does it all *mean*? http://www.completetosh.com/weblog/2007/07/01/iphone-but-whathtml/ Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:35:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Amanda Levine http://www.completetosh.com/weblog/2007/07/01/iphone-but-whathtml/#comment-19441 Amanda Levine Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:22:34 +0000 http://69.89.31.92/~complew7/?p=481#comment-19441 acana armipotent urocanic miscellaneously concordity cathartically ass woodbined <a href="http://www.uss-endeavour.com/" rel="nofollow">USS Endeavour NCC-17156-A Homepage</a> http://www.angelfire.com/film/hlhercvids/ acana armipotent urocanic miscellaneously concordity cathartically ass woodbined
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]]> By: John Warren Gotsch http://www.completetosh.com/weblog/2007/07/01/iphone-but-whathtml/#comment-1029 John Warren Gotsch Mon, 02 Jul 2007 12:28:11 +0000 http://69.89.31.92/~complew7/?p=481#comment-1029 I agree entirely with Nestor's perception of the future being Apple/Google's "ecosystem" . Please note that Eric Schmidt CEO of Goggle sits on Apple's Board. A board with Jobs/Schmidt/Al Gore is as "cutting-ewdge" as it gets. I have a bundle on AAPL so my money is where my mouth is! I agree entirely with Nestor’s perception of the future being Apple/Google’s “ecosystem” . Please note that Eric Schmidt CEO of Goggle sits on Apple’s Board.
A board with Jobs/Schmidt/Al Gore is as “cutting-ewdge” as it gets. I have a bundle on AAPL so my money is where my mouth is!

]]> By: Nestor Makhno http://www.completetosh.com/weblog/2007/07/01/iphone-but-whathtml/#comment-1028 Nestor Makhno Mon, 02 Jul 2007 11:10:55 +0000 http://69.89.31.92/~complew7/?p=481#comment-1028 My own conspiracy theory for what it's worth: Is Apple's hidden masterplan to eventually dispense completely with the phone carriers and their cellular networks and move towards exclusive use of WiFi and WiMax for data and VoIP? They simply don't care about 3G or 4G. Agreed, the critical mass isn't there yet - but surely it's not too far in the future? (Google's San Francisco city WiFi project being a taste of things to come.) Then in a few years Apple (in partnership with Google?) will have locked enough users into its 'ecosystem' and the traditional carriers will be left with nothing but a bunch of expensive and obsolete phone masts? My own conspiracy theory for what it’s worth: Is Apple’s hidden masterplan to eventually dispense completely with the phone carriers and their cellular networks and move towards exclusive use of WiFi and WiMax for data and VoIP? They simply don’t care about 3G or 4G.

Agreed, the critical mass isn’t there yet - but surely it’s not too far in the future? (Google’s San Francisco city WiFi project being a taste of things to come.)

Then in a few years Apple (in partnership with Google?) will have locked enough users into its ‘ecosystem’ and the traditional carriers will be left with nothing but a bunch of expensive and obsolete phone masts?

]]> By: Neil Mc http://www.completetosh.com/weblog/2007/07/01/iphone-but-whathtml/#comment-1027 Neil Mc Mon, 02 Jul 2007 09:32:27 +0000 http://69.89.31.92/~complew7/?p=481#comment-1027 I've never been cut up by a Mac, Craig :) I’ve never been cut up by a Mac, Craig :)

]]> By: Craig McGill http://www.completetosh.com/weblog/2007/07/01/iphone-but-whathtml/#comment-1026 Craig McGill Mon, 02 Jul 2007 09:16:05 +0000 http://69.89.31.92/~complew7/?p=481#comment-1026 With respone to Jamie Starbuck... "Mac, is the majority of people that buy their products are the same people that buy BMWs." I find that funny as Neil is no fan of BMW buyers but has been known to use a Mac from time to time! With respone to Jamie Starbuck… “Mac, is the majority of people that buy their products are the same people that buy BMWs.”

I find that funny as Neil is no fan of BMW buyers but has been known to use a Mac from time to time!

]]> By: Cooper http://www.completetosh.com/weblog/2007/07/01/iphone-but-whathtml/#comment-1025 Cooper Sun, 01 Jul 2007 22:51:33 +0000 http://69.89.31.92/~complew7/?p=481#comment-1025 In reply to Jamie Starbuck: I think that's false. That may be true about SOME people, but a lot of people buy apple products because they are the products that best satisfy their needs. Audio and Video producers have known this for quite some time, as have many graphic artists, although this was more true in the 90s. Logic, Reason, Final Cut Pro, ProTools, and others are indispensible tools in the same way that many software packages are indespensible to windows users, making them reluctant to use MacOS. The iPhone, being the only item on the market with its combination of features and full support of web 2.0 apps, is likewise, indispensible to someone who wants that capability. This isn't just the same as the next phone, only it looks cooler. In reply to Jamie Starbuck:

I think that’s false. That may be true about SOME people, but a lot of people buy apple products because they are the products that best satisfy their needs. Audio and Video producers have known this for quite some time, as have many graphic artists, although this was more true in the 90s. Logic, Reason, Final Cut Pro, ProTools, and others are indispensible tools in the same way that many software packages are indespensible to windows users, making them reluctant to use MacOS. The iPhone, being the only item on the market with its combination of features and full support of web 2.0 apps, is likewise, indispensible to someone who wants that capability. This isn’t just the same as the next phone, only it looks cooler.

]]> By: Steve http://www.completetosh.com/weblog/2007/07/01/iphone-but-whathtml/#comment-1024 Steve Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:51:14 +0000 http://69.89.31.92/~complew7/?p=481#comment-1024 Apple make well designed products with usable and appealing user interfaces. I just bought a (second hand) macbook after 20 years of Windows use and transitioned painlessly in a week. I have not been near my windows machines since. The Macbook is a pleasure to use and whilst the hype around apple and jobs is sick making, they know how to make user friendly technology products better than any one else out there. Apple make well designed products with usable and appealing user interfaces.

I just bought a (second hand) macbook after 20 years of Windows use and transitioned painlessly in a week. I have not been near my windows machines since. The Macbook is a pleasure to use and whilst the hype around apple and jobs is sick making, they know how to make user friendly technology products better than any one else out there.

]]> By: Wallace http://www.completetosh.com/weblog/2007/07/01/iphone-but-whathtml/#comment-1023 Wallace Sun, 01 Jul 2007 17:35:20 +0000 http://69.89.31.92/~complew7/?p=481#comment-1023 @Jamie Starbuck And I see those who buy Windows, Zune, XBOX as trailer trash type. Oh, they are not? I guess people shouldn't categorize others based on what they buy and like, huh? It's funny you say that Mac users are herd followers. If that were true, they would be Windows users, wouldn't they, seeing that 90+% computer users use Windows. That is where the herd is. Most Mac users knows both Windows and Macs, but choose to use Macs. Most Windows PC users who trash Macs and linux in fact never use them because they have this illusion that Windows is great. They are simply trained long enough to get used to Windows. Speaking about following the herd, the foremost argument to choose Windows is: it's what the rest of the world uses. :P @Jamie Starbuck
And I see those who buy Windows, Zune, XBOX as trailer trash type. Oh, they are not? I guess people shouldn’t categorize others based on what they buy and like, huh?

It’s funny you say that Mac users are herd followers. If that were true, they would be Windows users, wouldn’t they, seeing that 90+% computer users use Windows. That is where the herd is. Most Mac users knows both Windows and Macs, but choose to use Macs. Most Windows PC users who trash Macs and linux in fact never use them because they have this illusion that Windows is great. They are simply trained long enough to get used to Windows. Speaking about following the herd, the foremost argument to choose Windows is: it’s what the rest of the world uses. :P

]]> By: yucca http://www.completetosh.com/weblog/2007/07/01/iphone-but-whathtml/#comment-1022 yucca Sun, 01 Jul 2007 17:13:23 +0000 http://69.89.31.92/~complew7/?p=481#comment-1022 there is a significant difference with the ipod. the ipod was, at the time of launch, an 'mp3 player'. and the ipod still is, after years of success, an 'mp3 player'. but the iphone already today is not just a 'phone'. but this does not imply future success: they might come to change our vocabulary, and therefore our habits, and therefore the industry. but that does not imply that the iphone will be, for apple, a commercial success. the ipod was a huge commercial success without changing anything. there is a significant difference with the ipod. the ipod was, at the time of launch, an ‘mp3 player’. and the ipod still is, after years of success, an ‘mp3 player’. but the iphone already today is not just a ‘phone’.
but this does not imply future success: they might come to change our vocabulary, and therefore our habits, and therefore the industry. but that does not imply that the iphone will be, for apple, a commercial success. the ipod was a huge commercial success without changing anything.

]]> By: Jack Schofield http://www.completetosh.com/weblog/2007/07/01/iphone-but-whathtml/#comment-1021 Jack Schofield Sun, 01 Jul 2007 16:42:30 +0000 http://69.89.31.92/~complew7/?p=481#comment-1021 Nice one! I blogged this but the trackback hasn't shown up.... http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technology/archives/2007/07/01/enough_about_the_iphone_already.html Nice one! I blogged this but the trackback hasn’t shown up….

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/te.....ready.html

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