Comments on: New myths of new media http://www.completetosh.com/weblog/2005/05/17/new-myths-of-new-media/ Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:34:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Safran http://www.completetosh.com/weblog/2005/05/17/new-myths-of-new-media/comment-page-1/#comment-367 Safran Tue, 07 Jun 2005 04:09:23 +0000 http://69.89.31.92/~complew7/?p=252#comment-367 Good debate. Although I usually hate sites stealing my stuff verbatim, I like how you took it and deconstructed it. That's my kind of plagiarism. I write this stuff to spark conversation and I'm pleased you took up the challenge. I stand by my "truths," although I may be willing to relabel a couple as "postulates," if it would please my Right Honourable Bloggers in Blighty. Steve Safran LostRemote.com Good debate. Although I usually hate sites stealing my stuff verbatim, I like how you took it and deconstructed it. That’s my kind of plagiarism. I write this stuff to spark conversation and I’m pleased you took up the challenge. I stand by my “truths,” although I may be willing to relabel a couple as “postulates,” if it would please my Right Honourable Bloggers in Blighty.

Steve Safran
LostRemote.com

]]> By: Safran http://www.completetosh.com/weblog/2005/05/17/new-myths-of-new-media/comment-page-1/#comment-366 Safran Tue, 07 Jun 2005 04:09:00 +0000 http://69.89.31.92/~complew7/?p=252#comment-366 Good debate. Although I usually hate sites stealing my stuff verbatim, I like how you took it and deconstructed it. That's my kind of plagiarism. I write this stuff to spark conversation and I'm pleased you took up the challenge. I stand by my "truths," although I may be willing to relabel a couple as "postulates," if it would please my Right Honourable Bloggers in Blighty. Steve Safran LostRemote.com Good debate. Although I usually hate sites stealing my stuff verbatim, I like how you took it and deconstructed it. That’s my kind of plagiarism. I write this stuff to spark conversation and I’m pleased you took up the challenge. I stand by my “truths,” although I may be willing to relabel a couple as “postulates,” if it would please my Right Honourable Bloggers in Blighty.

Steve Safran
LostRemote.com

]]> By: Nik http://www.completetosh.com/weblog/2005/05/17/new-myths-of-new-media/comment-page-1/#comment-365 Nik Tue, 17 May 2005 17:45:59 +0000 http://69.89.31.92/~complew7/?p=252#comment-365 Just-plain-truth number N+1: Anything claiming to be the "new" something is no such thing. This reminds me of "The New New Thing" and "The Cluetrain Manifesto", both relics of the Internet bubble. Some of these things will be new; some will be old; and some will be just over-excited ideas catching a ride with the others. Anyway, hope you've got all that out your system now. Just-plain-truth number N+1: Anything claiming to be the “new” something is no such thing. This reminds me of “The New New Thing” and “The Cluetrain Manifesto”, both relics of the Internet bubble. Some of these things will be new; some will be old; and some will be just over-excited ideas catching a ride with the others.

Anyway, hope you’ve got all that out your system now.

]]> By: Rob http://www.completetosh.com/weblog/2005/05/17/new-myths-of-new-media/comment-page-1/#comment-364 Rob Tue, 17 May 2005 08:35:57 +0000 http://69.89.31.92/~complew7/?p=252#comment-364 My take on file sharing is that most of the people downloading stuff for free are the very same people who would never have bought a record or CD in the first place - the kind of people I've known all my life who will blag a copy (on tape, on CD, whatever), but wouldn't buy themselves. The internet just makes their rapaciousness more public and obvious. On the other hand, people who have always paid for music have been using file sharing as a means of trying-before-buying, or remembering things they used to like and own etc. The labels point to diminished sales, but I think the audience can point to diminished quality, and diminished interest in nurturing talent. Someone I read yesterday opined that, in today's climate, a band like U2 would have been dropped after their second album. I think this is too of people like Springsteen, too; and whereas it used to take 7-10 years of dues-paying in Nashville to get a contract, the labels there have now adopted the industry standard of signing teenagers and then dumping them after a couple of records. The problem with the record industry isn't file sharing - it's that there are no John Hammonds out there getting behind young talent and protecting them from the morons in marketing. My take on file sharing is that most of the people downloading stuff for free are the very same people who would never have bought a record or CD in the first place - the kind of people I’ve known all my life who will blag a copy (on tape, on CD, whatever), but wouldn’t buy themselves. The internet just makes their rapaciousness more public and obvious.

On the other hand, people who have always paid for music have been using file sharing as a means of trying-before-buying, or remembering things they used to like and own etc.

The labels point to diminished sales, but I think the audience can point to diminished quality, and diminished interest in nurturing talent. Someone I read yesterday opined that, in today’s climate, a band like U2 would have been dropped after their second album. I think this is too of people like Springsteen, too; and whereas it used to take 7-10 years of dues-paying in Nashville to get a contract, the labels there have now adopted the industry standard of signing teenagers and then dumping them after a couple of records.

The problem with the record industry isn’t file sharing - it’s that there are no John Hammonds out there getting behind young talent and protecting them from the morons in marketing.

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